"It had never occurred to me the great paradox that must forever live in a LaRouchie-parented child's mind: If Lyndon LaRouche had not been in prison, they would never have been born."

Factnet posting by "Scott," July 13, 2004 - 2:46 pm:

I came upon a mobile tactical unit of the LaRouche Youth. It was an old comrade of mine, Jenny, who was handing out the Children of Satan pamphlet and she had a fairly fresh recruit with her. Jenny is the child of two members of the Leesburg office,[1] and nearly made it out into the real world only to quit the third or fourth day of her job as a music teacher to "organize."

We talked for awhile about the veracity of recent statements made by the org, but she quickly realized she was forgetting her "mission" and hurriedly passed out pamphlets to passersby amid their jeers, taunts, and the occasional angry comment. The fresh organizer decided he would spend time talking with me, however, so we had a "conversation"--he was already intent on getting me into a "Socratic dialogue" on the economy. He eventually listened as Jenny also listened with one ear....she never made a peep at me until I "Socratically" asked the young man,"Do you know that they literally forced my old friend________ in your 'movement' to have an abortion? Do you realize they've been doing it for years?"

Jenny screamed "THAT'S NOT TRUE!"

Now, I know it's true--but why would she be so upset about it? It just hit me a few minutes ago while I was on my lunch break. I know three LaRouchie children who organize, and they're all about the same age (at most five years apart). It had never occurred to me the great paradox that must forever live in a LaRouchie-parented child's mind:

If Lyndon LaRouche had not been in prison, they would never have been born.[2]

Factnet posting by "Anonymous" (, July 13, 2004 - 8:33 pm:


That is really insightful. I know those in the org like to repeat to themselves that "all the world's children are your children"...and keep cats and dogs in lieu of having any kids. But that statement you made about how Lyn's five years in prison permitted a few human beings to be born really struck me.

After LaRouche got out of jail, he went on a rampage against "family values," calling it a fascist operation against the org by Fernando, etc.,[3] and accusing those who had babies to have been "victims" of a plot to destroy the org.[4]

LaRouche also ranted against the women in the org, accusing them of being the instigators of the "I want to have a baby" syndrome...due to some biological clock-ticking problem.

I wonder if the yute movement[5]--by roping in the cult members' kids (i.e., kids that they [supposedly] should never have given birth to)--is LaRouche's way of teaching his minions a lesson.

Footnotes by D. King:

[1] The national headquarters of the LaRouche movement, located in Leesburg, VA.

[2] While LaRouche was in prison (1989-1994), many children (I have the names of almost 20) were born to or adopted by LaRouchian families who worked in and around the Leesburg national office. This was possible because LaRouche was not in a position to personally monitor the members' conduct through his Security staff and other toadies (many of his most fanatical followers were themselves in prison), and the day-to-day leadership of the cult had fallen into the hands, temporarily, of members who were less hostile to normal family life.

However, "Mary" (an ex-member from the Leesburg area) informed me in an email that "there was a handful of kids born before LaRouche went to prison--kids whose parents had become determined to have a family." According to Mary, the young woman named Jenny referred to in Scott's 2004 posting "was born because her parents were determined to have a kid at the time (1979-80), and therefore were ignoring Lyn's remarks, and [the mother] was working for Ken Kronberg at WorldComp when Jenny was born--WorldComp being a place where it was okay to have kids."

Kronberg and his wife also had a child in the 1980s as did several other LaRouchian couples who worked for Kronberg's typesetting and printing companies, WorldComp and PMR. The three young organizers apart from Jenny referred to in Scott's 2004 posting would apparently have been part of this earlier cluster of births, since none of the kids born between 1989-1994 would have been old enough in 2004 to serve as organizers (this fact does not in any way undermine the validity of Scott's basic point--that most of the kids from the "prison crop," as Mary calls them, would never have been born or adopted if LaRouche had not been locked up in a Minnesota federal prison and thus unable to exert his usual tight control over his followers).

Mary notes that the leeway to become parents was mostly a Leesburg privilege, and it was always circumscribed. "Many of the LC kids who crept through," she says, "had to experience their mothers' having abortions rather than having more children." And in the "field" (any center of U.S. LaRouchian activity apart from the Leesburg office), Mary adds, "no one ever had kids, basically."

[3] Reference is to Fernando Quijano, who was the acting leader of the movement while LaRouche was in prison. Quijano and other top members during this period not only relaxed the policy that had prevented many of their Leesburg compatriots from having children, but also adopted common-sense financial measures to restore the movement's solvency. When LaRouche was released from prison as a parolee, he turned on Quijano, accused him of various treacherous acts, and eventually drove him from the org.

[4] In terms of LaRouche's self-interest, this was not an irrational reaction. Most of the individuals who became parents while LaRouche was in prison would leave the org over the following decade.

[5] Reference is to the LaRouche Youth Movement, founded circa 2000.